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Auktionshus

dømt 19.05.2004

Månedens kommentar

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 extra / sept. 2004

… en god historie fra Grelber

3. serie

 

Auktionshus dømt 19.05.2004 for at have snydt køber med ukomplet og potentielt vildledende information

 

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Emne: Presseinformation: Auktionshus dømt 19.05.2004 for at have snydt køber med ukomplet og potentielt vildledende information

 

Et underfundigt spørgsmål: ” Hvilket bliver det første skandinaviske auktionshus, der frivilligt stiller op til at blive dømt for allerede at have snydt byderne og købere med ukomplet og potentielt vildledende, faktuel ’information’ ? ”

 

 

Denne helt aktuelle europæiske præcedens-dannende dom fra EU-landet England dømmer helt principielt om præcis det samme vildledningsaspekt, som skandinaviske auktionshuse har udøvet i de i "Månedens Kommentar" afslørede sjældenheds-antals-lyverier. Nemlig: "ukomplet og potentielt vildledende [antals-]information". 

Præcist som ved Christie-dommen: de af skandinaviske auktionshuse anvendte data var ukomplette og mangelfulde. Og skandinaviske auktionshuse er fuldt vidende om dette og har handlet i ond tro.

 

Skandinaviske auktionshuse har udført disse snyderier på omtrent ALLE slags af danske + norske mønter: 2-speciedalere, 1-speciedalere, ½-speciedalere, 2 d'ors, 1 d'ors, dukater, gylden, kroner, mark, skilling, penning, afslag, guld, sølv, kobber etc. etc. etc. Systematisk gennem mere end 30 år.
 

Groft anslået er op imod mere end ca. 99 % af samtlige samlere fuldstændigt uvidende om de diverse sjældenheds-antals-snyderier, der forekommer udbredt i mønt- og auktions- branchen.


Pas på Dine penge.

Du kan ekstremt nemt blive 'brændt' .

 

Og i tilfælde af, at Du vælger at forsøge at sælge 'aben' videre til den næste køber i rækken, er det nu DIG, der bryder loven, og den næste køber vil så komme tilbage til Dig og sige: "Åh min gode ven. Du snød mig. Betal mine penge tilbage".
 

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Judge rules Christie’s misled art collector

Decision may have wide repercussions

Christie’s data found to be incomplete

 

Written by Heather Timmons, frontpage article in International Herald Tribune, May 20, 2004.

 

 

 

London: A judge in London ruled Wednesday that the auction house Christie’s International had provided incomplete, and potentially misleading, information about a set of urns that it sold to an art collector.

 

Taylor Lynn Thomson filed suit against Christie’s and the Marquess of Cholmondeley, the former owner of the urns, last year, claiming they were not from the Louis XV era, as Christie’s and the Marquess claimed, but were made instead in the 19th century.

 

Thomson paid £1.9 million, or about $3.4 million, for the urns. In her lawsuit, she estimates they are worth £30.000 at most.

 

Authenticity experts and art collectors have been closely watching the case because it hinges not on whether the vases are real or fake, but on how much information the auction house is required to give bidders. The decision on Wednesday could have repercussions beyond London, they say, with dealers choosing to qualify all the information they provide with a caveat about the source, or to be less definite about the age or origin of an art of antique.

 

In his decision, Judge Raymond Jack said he was ”70 percent certain” that the vases were made between 1760 and 1765, as Christie’s had said when it auctioned the pieces in 1994.

 

But, he said, Christie’s cataloguing methods gave an ”unjustified” feeling of confidence, and the auctioneer provided ”an incomplete picture and Ms. Thomson was entitled to a fuller one”.

 

The catalogue described the urns as designed by Ennemond-Alexandre Petiot for the Duke of Parma or one of his courtiers.

 

Christie’s should have told bidders that dating objects from the Louis XV era was unusually difficult because of the number of imitations made during the so-called Second Empire, a Baroque renaissance period in the mid 1800s, Jack wrote.

 

Additionally, there was not a ”jot of evidence” to suggest the vases were made for the duke or a courtier, he said.

 

Any monetary award or appeals will be decided later. Thomson is asking for her £1.9 million back, plus interest and her legal fees of about £800,000.

 

Christie’s said that it might appeal the decisions, but that it did not believe the judgment would have any longterm impact.

 

The judge’s decision reinforces Christie’s central points that the urns are 18th century, and of superb quality, the spokeswoman said.

 

Other dealers were not so sure. In the art world, discussion is already becoming more focused on how things are described during sales, said Rene Gimpel, owner of Gimpel Fils, a London Gallery.

 

To be on the safe side, dealers could say that all the dates and verification in their catalogue are attributed to someone else, Gimpel said.

 

Thomson said she was pleased by the decision.

 

”For me this case rested on an important matter of principle: Whether a buyer of goods at an auction is able to rely on the auction house’s claims for those goods”, she said in a statement.

 

Whether or not a piece is judged authentic or a fake can sometimes vary depending on the experts that are available in any given generation, Gimpel added. The recent confirmation of ”Young Woman Seated at the Virginal” as a piece by Johannes Vermeer is good example opinions of a piece can shift, he said.

 

The urns are made of porphyry, a quartz and mica based volcanic rock, with an ormolu collar, a metal treatment that generally involved plating brass or bronze with gold. They feature symmetrical lions crawling over the lip, and a serpent.

 

Ann Getty, the oil heiress, owns an identical pair of urns, and is said to be one of the bidders that drove the price of Thomson’s vases up from the £400,000 that Christie’s originally estimated.

 

 

The New York Times

 

 

 

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"Man kunne selvfølgelig også forsøge sig med den rigtige ting - at rette sine forkerte handlemåder ....."

 

 

 

Grundregel i al simplicitet: ”Når en person[:=her auktionskatalogforfatter]  IKKE har undersøgt kildematerialet   - herunder de ca. 4.000 dansk-norske trykte kildemateriale-auktioner -    er denne person[:=her auktionskatalogforfatter]  IKKE kvalificeret til at udtale sig om sjældenheds-antal. En sådan person[:=her auktionskatalogforfatter]  skal derfor IKKE foretage nogen som helst sjældenheds-antals-’udtalelser’ overhovedet. I modsat fald er den gennemgående statistiske sandsynlighed, at  eventuelle købere vildledes. En person[:=her auktionskatalogforfatter] bliver endvidere IKKE frigjort fra sit retslige ansvar ved at afskrive andres [:=f.eks. Hede’s eller Sieg’s eller NM's] lyverier. Og vildledning af købere med falske, faktuelle ’oplysninger’ er ulovligt.”

 

INFO: Der gælder samme regler for "auktionshuse" og "mønthandlere" og "privatsamlere" og "alle".

 

 

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